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Onlookers at crash site(Photo: WBEN's Dave Debo)

Posted: Monday, 02 November 2009 6:09AM

Four Killed In Clarence Crash



The Victims:

Mark Brown, 19, Getzville, , a graduate of WIlliamsville North HS

Viktor Shapiro, 18, Amherst, a graduate of WIlliamsville North HS. The driver, his friends described him as a car buff.

Megan Schnorr, 16, a Williamsville South HS Student

Amanda Slisz, 16, a junior at Williamsville East HS

Also Injured: Mark and Bonnie Grimmer of East Amherst.
A  two-vehicle crash on Strickler Road in Clarence has killed four people and injured two others.

According to the Erie County Sheriff's Office, a van with two people inside was broadsided by a sedan Sunday evening at approx. 8:30, near the intersection with County Rd, killing four teens inside the car.  

The car apparently went through the stop sign on Strickler Road, somewhere over the 45 MPH speed limit according to the Sheriff's Office.

"Speed is definitely going to be a factor in this,' says Erie County Undersheriff Richard Donovan. "Right now it is the only contributing factor we are looking at. There is no evidence of alcohol, toxicology we won't have back for a while, but right now... it would definitely be speed."

Driver Viktor Shapiro, 18, of Amherst, and Amanda Slisz, 16 , of Amherst, were ejected  from the vehicle. Passengers Mark Brown, 19, of Getzville and 16 year old Megan Schnorr of Amherst were also killed.
 
The passengers in van are identified as Mark and Bonnie Grimmer, both in their 60's and were taken to ECMC. Mark Grimmer was treated and released from ECMC Monday afternoon. Bonnie Grimmer remains in critical condition as of Monday evening at ECMC.

Both the van and the car slid through the intersection and ended up almost hitting a house on the corner of Strickler & County Roads (pictured at left). 

Donovan, who spent part of his morning talking with the homeowners there, says that they have seen 4 similar stop sign accidents in the past 8 years at that intersection, but none have been fatal.

Friends of the teens began gathering near the crash site by late morning. Some bore flowers, while others crouched silently  as if in prayer.  One brought a Car & Driver magazine in tribute to Shapiro, who he said was a car buff. 

 Slisz was a junior at Williamsville East High School;  Schnorr attended Williamsville South High School;  Brown and  Shapiro were former Williamsville North High students. 

The Williamsville School District released the following statement:
 

The Williamsville school community has been saddened by the tragic death of four young people involved in a car accident Sunday night in Clarence. Our entire high school community has been impacted by this loss.

Amanda Slisz was a junior at East High School; Megan Schnorr attended South High School; Mark Brown and Viktor Shapiro were former North High students.

Our hearts go out to their grieving families and friends.

Our schools have counseling services available for students who may need assistance surrounding this tragedy. A letter is being sent home from the Superintendent with all high school students today about this tragic loss.



 


11/02/2009 12:01PM
Four Killed In Clarence Crash
Leave your comments on the tragedy....
11/02/2009 12:06PM
Patricia
There is never an answer for these senseless tragedies. unfortunately they happen and it hurts every time.
11/02/2009 12:07PM
how sad
I can only say my hearts go out to all the families who have been touched by this. Two of the children were friends with my own son and he is taking this very badly. Prayers and thoughts are with everyone touched by this.
11/02/2009 4:54PM
Dave
Patricia, there is an answer , young men and speed. I'm now 71, but at age 16, I amlost killed my self and the 3 innocent passenges in my car ~~1955.
11/02/2009 4:57PM
too fast
can't be driving that fast--a "car buff" should know better!
11/02/2009 4:59PM
AUTO ACCIDENT
Patricia, it's speed !! In 1955 at age 17, I almost killed myself and 3 innocent kids in my car ~~Speed !!!Dave
11/02/2009 6:09PM
My Sincere Sympathies
As a father, I can't imagine what the parents are going through at this most difficult time. My warmest thoughts and prayers are with you all. Mike
11/02/2009 6:42PM
Terrible Tragedy
My thoughts and prayers go out to these families. Let this be a lessonn to us all-hug your loved ones everyday and let them know how much you love them, you never know when you will see them again.
11/02/2009 7:00PM
4th armored
i am now 74yy, i have always avoided high speed(except whating nascar sprint races)i may have hit 75mph out west on a hgwy. posted for that speed....please don't speed and be cautious......prayers for all....bob
11/02/2009 8:08PM
Thank You
this is the first comment page i have seen today that doesn't have bashing of the teens or the driver. Viktor was a close friend to my brother and he is devastated. No matter who is at fault, my heart goes to these families and of course the couplein the hospital.
11/02/2009 8:52PM
Please Learn From This
Teenagers, please learn from this. Bad things do happen. Please be careful.
11/02/2009 9:00PM
TRAGEDY
I AM THE AUNT OF MEGAN SCHNORR I KNOW HER FAMILY IS TAKING HER DEATH BAD AS I'M SURE THE FAMILIES OF THE OTHER VICTIMS ARE ALSO TAKING THIS NEWS BAD BUT US AS PARENTS CAN ONLY TEACH OUR CHILDREN RIGHT FROM WRONG AND ALONG LIFE'S WAY THEY MUSTMAKE THEIR OWN DECESIONS BONNIE
11/02/2009 9:13PM
cant believe this happened
i have known amanda since elementary school and the thought that she is gone hasn't set in yet....R.I.P everyone....prayers for the families who are suffering the most
11/03/2009 10:41AM
Raise the driving age
We need to raise the driving age...
11/03/2009 1:56PM
County Road is a Death Trap
In the past 18 months seven individuals have died from car accidents on County Road between Transit and Salt Roads. One other death occurred on Transit a few yards from County Road as well. This has been brought to the Town of Clarence's attention long before all of these deaths occurred. Speed, poor road conditions, and traffic volume all play key roles.
11/03/2009 2:48PM
car crash
Install blinking red lights, so it can be seen for miles.
11/03/2009 3:33PM
Not a graduate
The 19 driver was a high school drop out and 18 male had just been released from a drug rehab program. What were two 16 yr. old girls doing in their company???
11/03/2009 4:18PM
Thoughts and Prayers
My heartfelt thoughts and prayers to all family and friends at this most difficult time. As a parent I can imagine the loss you must feel.
11/04/2009 9:12AM
a lot
thoughts and prays to the family.. please if your the family and others lets make a stand for tougher rules,better regulations! had that happened this wouldn't have happened. it was there fault for getting in but its NOT there fault the STATE make him legal. i have to blame the state for not stopping him sooner.!
11/04/2009 9:13AM
last
he was handed it on a silver platter saying here have fun and go ahead and hurt someone.. they knew his record of speed and let him drive. yes i say its was the kids fault they knew what they where doing when they got in the car..
11/04/2009 9:14AM
courts
but when the courts do nothing to stop this.. who is really to blame? parent? I'm sure they couldn't have stopped him he was LEGAL.. they need better laws. take the permits, Jr licenses, even licenses for ANYONE speeding not just kids that dothis junk. have stages. 3-6 months 1 yr then just revoke for life!
11/04/2009 9:14AM
courts
if they cant learn.. make sure cars are taken impound and sell at auctions. they need to buy a NEW car as a lesson.. i feel very bad for the families i hope for these 4 lives lost there is 1 LIFE SAVED from learning from this..
11/04/2009 11:08AM
Tragic but not the roads fault
Very tragic anytime ANYONE loses their life! However, lets not say this happened because of County Road. I have driven this road for nearly 20 years. It would have made no difference if it was a 35 mph speed zone. Should we put up traffic signals atevery intersection? That would only increase the number of people spiking their brakes which would cause more accidents. Bottom line, pay attention and obey any speed limit and traffic signal!
11/04/2009 2:19PM
There Are NO Words
As a mother of three teenage boys, I know that children of this age think that they have everything under control and know it all. We must remember to teach them right from wrong and only hope that they are strong enough to make the right choices when they are NOT with with us.Somehow God gives us the strenghth when we need it the most. Cathy
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