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WBEN Extra: Changing NYS Marijuana Laws



 Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Monday proposed cutting the penalty for public possession of a small amount of marijuana, a change in state law that would defuse some criticism of the New York Police Department's stop-and-frisk policy in minority communities.

With three weeks remaining in the legislative session, Cuomo said his bill to reduce the criminal misdemeanor to a violation with a fine up to $100 would save thousands of New Yorkers, disproportionately black and Hispanic youths, from unnecessary arrests and criminal charges.

Buffalo's Early News & WBEN.com examined the issue Wednesday morning

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The Smoker.....

For some in Western New York, Governor Cuomo's plan doesn't go far enough.

 "They should let people grow their own too," says one pot smoker, who spoke with WBEN on condition of remaining anonymous.

The 53 year old says he has been smoking marijuana since age 14, at first as a recreational drug, but also as a means to ease the pain of a longtime bone disease.

"I'd rather smoke a joint, smoke a little weed than take a handful of medication like Lortab or whatnot," he says, adding that " as far as a gateway drug, I think alcohol is much worse,"

While not against Cuomo's plan, he tells WBEN that he wouldn't mind seeing marijuana completely decriminalized with an 18 or 21 year old limit and a series of regulations and taxes.
And The Cop....

At the New York State Association of Chiefs of Police, you'd think opposition to the changes might be a little stronger. Historically after all, law enforcement officers see marijuana use regularly, in association with other crimes.

And that's exactly why many are taking a wait-and see approach to the Governor's plan, voicing little opposition.

"This really is a New York City issue.  I think the police department in New York City really wants to hold on to its stop-and-frisk program which is a a very valuable law enforcement tool to fight gun crime," says John Grebert, a former chief  who heads the New York State Association of the Chiefs of Police. .

"However in the process of using the stop-and-frisk they found a very large number of arrests for possession of marijuana giving criminal records to those, that the advocates of this law say, wouldn't have one otherwise," Grebert says.

He adds that early opposition is slight- especially in light of support from the well respected New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kellly, and with the reminder that smoking pot would still be a criminal offense. Cuomo's proposal effects only marijuana possession
 

AP PhotoIn announcing the changes Monday, Gov Cuomo said the move is not a step toward decriminalization, but rather instead a nod to consistency. 

"There's a blatant inconsistency. If you possess marijuana privately, it's a violation. If you show it in public, it's a crime," Cuomo said. "It's incongruous. It's inconsistent the way it's been enforced. There have been additional complications in relation to the stop-and-frisk policy where there's claims young people could have a small amount of marijuana in their pocket, where they're stopped and frisked. The police officer says, `Turn out your pockets.' The marijuana is now in public view. It just went from a violation to a crime."

New York City prosecutors and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, (pictured R) whose offices handled almost 50,000 such criminal cases last year, endorsed the Democratic governor's plan. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the bill largely mirrors the city police directive issued last year for officers to issue violations, not misdemeanors, "for small amounts of marijuana that come into open view during a search."

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said it will help them redirect limited resources to serious crime, and key Assembly Democrats expressed support. Some opposition is expected in the state Senate's Republican majority, where a spokesman said they will review the measure once Cuomo submits it.

Possession of less than 25 grams was reduced in state law to a violation in 1977, subject to a ticket and fine. If the pot is burning or in public view, it rises to a misdemeanor that leads to an arrest. Cuomo's proposal differs from pending Assembly and Senate bills because it leaves public pot smoking as a criminal misdemeanor.

Cuomo acknowledged the existing approach disproportionately affects minority youths, with 94 percent of arrests in New York City, more than half of those arrested younger than 25 and 82 percent either black or Hispanic. He also defended keeping smoking pot a crime. "I believe the society does want to discourage the use of marijuana in public, on the street. Smoking a joint, I think, is a different level of activity than just being in possession of it," he said.

According to advocates for decriminalizing it, 14 states, including Oregon and Massachusetts, have lowered penalties for possessing small amounts of marijuana to civil fines in a movement that began in the 1970s. Since 1996, 16 states, including California, have legalized its use for medical conditions, though New York has not.

Kelly said he faced criticism from City Council last year about too many arrests for small amounts of marijuana. He responded that they need to change the state law because officers can't simply turn a blind eye to it.

In response to allegations that police were arresting people for marijuana that was in their pockets until police made them reveal it, Kelly issued a directive last year reminding officers how existing law should correctly be applied. "This (new) law will make certain that the confusion in this situation will be eliminated, and it also mandates that a violation will be charged irrespective as the district attorney said the marijuana is in plain sight or not," he said Monday.

Assemblyman Hakeem Jeffries, a Brooklyn Democrat and sponsor of the Assembly bill similar to Cuomo's proposal, said the racially disparate arrest numbers are a consequence of both the statute and the police stop-and-frisk policies. "The unlawful arrests have declined but not at the level that many had hoped would take place," he said.


06/06/2012 6:27AM
WBEN Extra: Marijuana Laws In NYS
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06/06/2012 7:59AM
Leagalize it and treat it like alcohol
The state should just get it over with. This battle has been waging for decades and they aren't winning. When do we say enough is enough. Legalize marijuana and treat it just like alcohol. If you get stoned and drive a car then the same laws that apply to DWI should apply. Just think of all that money that has been spent and what it could do for the state.
06/06/2012 3:49PM
Mr. Paul Smith
I've followed the law for the majority of my life. I'm sick and tired that my so-called leaders don't recognize the fact that illegal is illegal. Don't solve the alien problem make them legal, drugs a problem make it legal. Give me a break
06/06/2012 3:51PM
New york city
make new york city their own state. Then they can have the law anyway they want.
06/06/2012 8:05PM
marijuana laws in nys
i dont see any thing wrong with marijuana use, i believe drinking is a bigger problem in this state. if marijuana was legal i believe like many others in this country that the national debt would fall from all the taxes that could be implimented on the sales, just like the constant tax hikes on the tabacco users
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