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Forbes Top College Lists: SUNY Geneseo, UB Alfred & Canisus

Forbes is out with its annual ranking of top colleges... And move over Ivy League.

The number one University is Stanford in California, with Pamona College- also from California- in second place.  The East Coast Ivy's - Princeton, Yale and Columbia - fill out the top five.

  WNY Schools
on The FORBES List

Click on each logo to see thier listing

  SUNY Geneseo

SUNY, Buffalo (University at Buffalo)300.
University at Buffalo

Alfred University logo438.
Alfred University

Canisius College464.
Canisius College

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Locally, SUNY Geneseo places the highest in the seven counties of Western New York with a ranking of 250 based on various measures of student return on investment.

The rankings are determined by five specific factors that measure costs of attending that particular school and correlate them to graduate success rates.   See Forbes Methodology HERE

The State University of New York at Buffalo ranks 300 nationwide. UB ranks 131 nationwide amongst research universities and places 112 in the Northeast .

Alfred University ranks 438 and Canisius College comes in at 464.  Other WNY schools did not make the list.

The rankings come from federal data,  but this year Forbes editor  Caroline Howard says two schools "out-right lied" about the data they gave the federal government, distorting numbers like the SAT scores of incoming Freshman .

Bucknell University in Williamsport PA,  Claremont McKenna in Claremont California , Emory University in Atlanta and Iona College in New Rochelle NY  have all been suspended from the list for two years due to data violations.

Claremont McKenna provided false numbers to federal officials as part of a concerted effort to goose rankings, Forbes says.

" Bucknell University doctored SAT results from 2006 to 2012; Emory University provided numbers for admitted students rather than enrolled ones for more than a decade; and Iona College lied about acceptance and graduation rates, SAT scores and alumni giving for nine years starting in 2002. All have since fessed up and claim to have instituted better practices.," the magazine says

´╗┐How Does Forbes Determine Who's Best?
From the magazine's article on this year's rankings, here's the explanation from Editor Caroline Howard

"For the sixth year, FORBES has partnered with the Washington, D.C.-based Center for College Affordability and Productivity (CCAP) for The Top Colleges in the U.S. The FORBES list of 650 schools distinguishes itself from competitors by our belief in “output” over “input.” We’re not all that interested in what gets a student into college, like our peers who focus heavily on selectivity metrics such as high school class rank, SAT scores and the like. Our sights are set directly on ROI: What are students getting out of college?

...The staff at CCAP gathers data from a variety of sources. They use 12 factors to calculate these rankings, each of which falls into one of five general categories below. The weight of each category is noted.

Student Satisfaction (22.5%) This is based on student evaluations from RateMyProfessor (15%), the largest site for professor ratings

Post-Graduate Success (37.5%) Salary of alumni by school is pulled from Payscale.com (15%), the market leader in global online compensation data.
Student Debt (17.5%) This list looks at three components of student debt: average federal student loan debt load (10%), student loan default rates (5%) and predicted vs. actual percent of students taking federal loans (2.5%).

Graduation Rate (11.25%)  CCAP evaluates how many students actually finish their degrees in four years, considering both the actual graduation rate (8.75%) and the actual vs. predicted rate (2.5%).

Nationally Competitive Awards (11.25%)This category rewards schools whose students win prestigious scholarships and fellowships like the Rhodes, the National Science Foundation and the Fulbright (7.5%) or go on to earn a Ph.D.(3.75%).

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